I’d like you to meet my new favorite person Tommy, who goes by “My_Doode” on TikTok and other platforms. Tommy regularly debates MAGA - and he regularly crushes them. He brings the facts, and he brings receipts.
I’ve been watching his video obsessively because he has a wide range and depth of knowledge that even I find impressive. He’s incredibly patient and gives whoever he’s debating every reasonable chance to make their point with specific examples.
He also goes live on TikTok and Youtube M-F at 6pm PST.
Invariably, they make broad claims but can’t point to any specifics. They can’t correctly quote anything or anyone. They get haughty, snotty and arrogant. They’re hyper-confident without any justification and despite all the metrics that go against them. And Tommy, along with help from his friend Jayden, slap their nonsense down with ease.
In this first video, he debates the issue of Biden’s supposed "cognitive decline” versus examples of Trump’s gaffes. He doesn’t even mention that Biden is documented to have a stutter. The MAGA guy can’t come up with a single specific example of Biden “Freezing” but he yammers on and on about Biden “stumbling and bumbling.”
Tommy eventually turns the tables and starts reading from a sheet of Trump’s recent gaffes.
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Nikki Haley was in charge of Security at the Capitol
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Biden was going to start World War II
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He defeated Obama in the last election - which is double nuts.
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Iran called and said they were going to “bomb us outside the compound.”
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Magnets go “poof” in water.
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You need a state-issued Voter ID to buy a loaf of bread.
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Wind turbines are killing whales.
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Putin has so little respect for Obama he’s going to send Nukes
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Jeb Bush got us into the middle east.
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“Corn is non-liquid gold.”
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John Deere makes elevators.
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He wants the economy to crash in the next 12 months
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He confused Sioux Falls with Sioux City.
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He never heard of the term “Supply Change”
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The U.S. it’s like “Us” - I just thought of that
The MAGA tries to claim “there’s a little bit of a difference between them because Trump is talking all the time, and Biden only comes out of his basement once in a while.”
Biden is campaigning and speaking in public at least twice a week.
In this video we get a MAGA trying to argue that Trump is “innocent until proven guilty” but when Tommy mentions “Lock Her Up” suddenly Hillary Clinton is determined - by this person - to be guilty without a trial even though she was exonerated multiple times.
It’s a great example of the double-think that MAGAs employ. It’s always a double standard, our complaints about Trump have to exceed the highest possible standard — and even when they do the “Judge, Jury and System is biased,” but any crazed rumor about Hillary, Biden or Hunter is a slam-dunk lock without there ever being a conviction. Without there even being a case or an indictment.
I entered comments on this one:
Hillary Clinton was never charged, even though she was investigated by Congress, Comey and John Durham. Durham charged 2 Clinton associates and lost those cases. Joe Biden was never charged even though he was investigated by Robert Hur. Biden has left the special counsel investigating and charging Hunter in place. [But there’s still no evidence he took bribes or engaged in corruption]
Trump absolutely tried to convict his political rivals - he wanted to prosecute Clinton, Biden, James Comey and Andrew McCabe - and he lost every time.
8 Trump associates were investigated by Mueller, charged, prosecuted and convicted. 5 of them for lying under oath about Russia.
Trump has been charged in 4 cases, but he already lost both E. Jean Carroll cases, he lost the Business Fraud Criminal and Civil Cases, he lost on Trump University, and the Trump Charity Foundation.
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Just like the President and Vice President, Hillary Clinton had declassification authority - which she delegated to her staff. They used that authority to downgrade the classified rating of some things they sent her via email.
Of the 3 or 4 items that were marked (C) for Confidential only one of them was correctly marked because they forgot to downgrade that one.
These classification changes were within the State Dept, but other agencies still retained a higher classification for some of them, so when the FOIA request was processed they argued that they should have been higher according to those other agencies.
Let me elaborate on that by quoting Politico on some of the email markings.
At a regular briefing for reporters Wednesday, Kirby said State is aware of two instances in the set of roughly 30,000 messages turned over to the agency by Clinton where classification markings appeared in the emails. However, he said those were mistakes where staff failed to remove the notations while preparing background and talking points for Clinton in a planned phone call with a foreign official.
"It appears that those...that those markings were a human error. They didn’t need to be there. Because once the secretary had decided to make the call, the process is then to move the call sheet, to change its markings to unclassified and deliver it to the secretary in a form that he or she can use," Kirby said. "And best we can tell on these occasions, the markings — the confidential markings — was simply human error. Because the decision had already been made, they didn’t need to be made on the email."
Kirby said such "call sheets" are often treated as classified when being prepared but as unclassified when forwarded to the secretary for his or her use.
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It remained unclear Wednesday whether State and the FBI were in disagreement about whether the information in the call sheets was actually considered classified at the time they were sent to Clinton. Kirby indicated that State officials sending the information to Clinton effectively had the authority to declassify that information.
I will say this, we constantly get MAGAs on camera spouting their nonsense. They always get interviewed and they almost always sound literally insane. It’s very refreshing and satisfying to see someone push back against their nonsense and do it with a significant base on knowledge and facts.
Here’s one last example where he debates a MAGA on the issue of the migrants and the border and he manages to stump him simply by asking “Tell me one negative thing about migrants coming into the country?” And the MAGA can’t do it.
Again, Tommy correctly notes that the crime rate for migrants is lower than for citizens.
“If we traded all the Trump supporters for migrants the crime rate would go down significantly.”
There’s been a ton of MAGA outrage over the migrants who supposedly attacked police in Times Square — well, it turns out that based on the body cam footage it was the police who started that altercation.
Prosecutors have shared new video footage of the Jan. 27 incident in Times Square, as seen above, in which a group of men including 24-year-old Yohenry Brito were lawfully ordered to disperse. NYPD Chief of Detectives Joseph Kenny previously said that everybody at the scene dispersed "except for Mr. Brito," who is currently being held on $15,000 bail at Rikers Island. "He turned around and got confrontational with the police officers. He refused a lawful order," said Kenny.
The new video contradicts these statements and shows that the police were the aggressors.
Brito and the group of men he was with were standing outside of a migrant shelter when the two patrolling officers approached them and told them to disperse. "Let's go, vamos," one of the officers can be heard in the clip. Brito backed away from the officer and told him in Spanish not to touch him. The officers instructed the group to "go to West Four One," and they began to walk away.
Brito walked down the sidewalk and briefly stopped to get a baby carriage with his possessions. After making a remark about one of the cops looking like Ugly Betty as he walked away, one of the officers aggressively grabbed Brito and pushed him against the wall of the building nearby. The group of men he was with turned around and began to shout at the police. After a brief back-and-forth, Brito fell to the ground with one of the officers. The other men started to kick the officers and attempted to free their friend.
“Migrant Crime” is exceedingly rare.
This wasn’t a case of “wild and violent migrants attacking police” — it was police brutality that several migrants were trying to save their friend from.
Again on this issue, I had comments.
Since 2021, about 2.5 Million people have been processed at the border and are scheduled for deportation and asylum hearings. There is currently a backlog for those hearings of 3 Million (which is why there was funding for the immigration courts in the Bipartisan Senate Border bill that the MAGAs shut down). Nearly all those people are families or single children.
How many people can we take? That's a question for the job market - how many jobs and workers can we support? That varies from time to time. If there wasn't a cap of 66,000 per year for H2B Visas and it didn't require that they be requested and sponsored by companies and corporations, then we would have a natural balance of migration controlled by the need for jobs - but that's not how the laws are structured.
We don't fix that problem because these companies depend on having a supply a desperate undocumented workers who can work under the table for starvation wages. It's the modern-day slave/low wage trade.
The GOP fantasy is that "we're out of room" but that's not really true. We are running a job deficit and those people can do those jobs. They don't get federal services so they aren't draining tax dollars. If they come and can work and take care of themselves - who the fuck cares?
The real GOP complaint is that they'll come here and vote for Democrats - but they can't vote. If you're undocumented you can't get a Green Card, which can take 3-5 years to acquire if you are documented after you've gone through the deportation hearings and have won. The hearings can take years, and getting your green card after that takes even more years because there's a limit of only 10,000 removal cancellations allowed per year. Then you have to hold that Green Card for another 5 years before you can apply for Citizenship - so there's only a slim chance any of these people will ever vote, and that's 10-12 years down the road. Their kids - who are born here - will have a better chance of voting in 18 years.
They also complain that migrants congregate in "Democrat Cities" and that they can skew the census so that Democratic states get more electoral seats and votes -- but the problem with that is that many of the job these migrants seek are in Red states like Texas, Georgia and Florida - so NO it doesn't just help Blue states get more electoral vote, plus the GOP gerrymanders the shit out of their districts and steals votes and representatives away from blue areas in their states.
Austin Texas is blue and it's cut up into 4 separate districts all represented by Republicans - so they can cut all that "electoral count" bullshit out.
The sad part of all this is that you can give someone the facts, but you can’t make them understand or agree with them.
Quite often Tommy has to mute the MAGAs who keep interrupting, shifting issues and pivoting from one subject to another. They keep spiraling repeating the same talking points over and over while talking louder and faster as if that makes a difference.
More often than not — he has to kick them out of the discussion because they just get more and more worked up and triggered. [People in their Live Chat, which they do every day for 4 hours or more, can pay $30 to have the guest kicked out of the debate — so the more people they debate and get kicked the more money they make. So, that’s an interesting financial model, bringing on obnoxious MAGAs so people get annoyed enough to pay to kick them out.]
I’ve watched maybe 20 of his videos and I’ve only seen one guy - one - actually admit that he was wrong about something, and accept the correction that Tommy and Jayden have provided.
That’s pretty disappointing if the goal is to change hearts and minds.
But I don’t think that’s it.
I think it’s just satisfying to see someone taking the rhetorical battle to the MAGA like the Harlem Globetrotters - spinning the ball behind their back and dunking in their face like they’re the Washington Generals.
Because these people suck. Really they do.
This is what we normally get - a one-sided view from poor deluded MAGAs without any pushback or fact-checking of their obvously deluded BS.
We constantly have reporters questioning Trump supporters about "How they feel" about this or that. On one hand, I'm at the point where I don't fracking care what these thimbles think anymore.
On the other hand, I feel sorry for them. They've lost all faith in practically everything.
"They're trying to blackball [Trump]. You have to dig so deep to get to the truth and you feel like you've was so much time if they just gave it to you up front - If we had an honest media"
His idea of trustworthy "independent" media is Stephen Crowder - who's a pandering right-wing Ammosexual shill? This is the dude you trust? Geezuz.
He trusts Crowder's own website to fact-check him? Are you kidding me?
No wonder so many of these people are sad, angry, lost and confused. It's really sad what's been done to them, how they've been tricked. Because they want to be lied to. They want someone who’s going to tell them every one of their worst paranoid fears are true.
And that’s exactly what they get.
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